December 30, 2011 at 7:26 am #207296. Its origin is murky; there was an experimental 6.8mm Mauser developed for China so rare that standard references show no photos. Caliber .270, bullet diameter .277-inch, is primarily an American phenomenon based on the .270 Winchester, which was introduced in 1925. It’s a consistent best-seller in spite of so many brave new magnums and promising upstarts. This dictionary was written exclusively for Wholesale Hunter with unique information found nowhere else. That hasn’t been the end, though. Posts: 5,669. These offer no discernible advantage over .277-inch bullets from 130 to 150 grains. This argument is valid if you use heavier bullets. Finally, the far zero of the .270 WSM is 5.9% further (270 vs. 255 yds.) Craig was involved in the development and testing of many of these and writes from first hand experience. Browse By. Nobody knows for sure why Winchester’s Roaring Twenties engineers settled on that bullet diameter. There is .013-inch (thirteen thousandths) difference in diameter between the 6.5mm (.264) and the .270 (.277). Put .270 and 7mm bullets side by side, and the difference in diameter almost escapes the human eye. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufact Some time back one astute reader offered a plausible explanation. These folks typically ignore the .270s. Don't pick a fight with an old man. Regularly take 2 or more deer each year with the 270. One of the most poorly understood concepts in terminal ballistics is energy transfer, which is difficult to quantify because it doesn’t always consider bullet performance. I hear a lot of guys call the 6.8 a 6.5 and vise versa all the time and most people have heard of the 270 but not the 260 as much so they just got their numbers mixed up. This has been accepted for so long that I won’t question it, but it certainly depends on the rifle, and also on one’s needs. I want to move up because ill be taking longer shots on elk and i can push out to around 700 yards and want to maintain energy at that distance, that being the reason wanting to move to a 7mm rem mag. bolt gun. Bullet Caliber. Remington wasn’t done. Its origin is murky; there was an experimental 6.8mm Mauser developed for China so rare that standard references show no photos. The 8mm Mauser is a relatively unknown cartridge among American hunters, but its wide range of bullet weights and muzzle velocities make it an excellent choice for hunting medium to large North American, European, and even some African game species. Comparing the .270 with the 7mm Remington magnum is like comparing grits and white cornmeal. The .270 Winchester has never been considered a match-grade cartridge. IMHO they are two excellent cartridges. As far as 325wsm, I think it would fall neatly between 8mm/06 and 8mag. Recoil is a bit lighter with the 7mm-08 than the 270 if loaded with a 130gr bullet on factory ammo. The 6.8mm Remington Special Purpose Cartridge (6.8 SPC, 6.8 SPC II or 6.8×43mm) is a rimless bottlenecked intermediate rifle cartridge that was developed by Remington Arms in collaboration with members of the U.S. Army Marksmanship Unit, United States Special Operations Command to possibly replace the 5.56 NATO cartridge in a Short Barreled Rifle(SBR)/Carbine. 7mm-08 remington 7mm-08 rem ack 7mm mauser (7x57) 7mm mauser (7x57) ack 284 winchester 280 remington 280 ackley improved 7mm rem mag 7mm wby mag 28 nosler 7mm rem ultra mag All screws loctited, 200 yard zeros, shot at 100 and 300 for bullet drop test. By Chuck Hawks. Jack Naylor. Good friend in Pennsylvania does all his groundhog hunting with a 270. Perhaps the explanation is as simple as that! Participant. One gun - 270. Now let’s turn to the 7mm, a European standard since the 1890s. 3 219 Zipper 2 280 Rem. They already had one in the excellent 7mm Weatherby Magnum, one of Roy’s original cartridges, but for some reason this was largely ignored. It received more worldwide acclaim when renamed .275 Rigby in the British gun trade. [Last Edit: 5/23/2009 5:32:38 AM EST by Rcd567]. These performance advantages for the .270 WSM in Class 2 game bullet weights, such as the 130 grain .277 bullet, may be enough to justify preference for the .270 WSM over the .270 … View all posts by Craig Boddington, THE VERSATILE LEVER-ACTION? They probably wanted something based on the .30-06 case that might shoot flatter, kick less, and be almost as versatile. Have not been on the Hunting side for a while (have been staying on the fishing side), hope everyone is doing Great. Even though I am putting together a 6.8 AR and plan to hunt with it some, it will never replace my .270 Win. I am convinced that, as hunting cartridges, the super-fast .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby Magnum are as versatile and effective as any 7mm cartridges. 338 Win Mag is capable of being chambered in some of the most popular bolt action and semi auto hunting rifles out there. However, I’m absolutely convinced the 7mm hits harder than the 6.5mm, and equally convinced that the difference between the .270 and the 7mm is just too close to call! This is one of the main reasons, when looking at the .270 vs .308, why the .270 is favored for hunting large game where shots are taken at increased distance. However, without trying to figure out whether the chicken or the egg came first, since almost no one considers the .270s competition-grade cartridges there has been little development in either match grade or long-range bullets. 270 Winchester And 7mm-08 Remington Race 7mm Remington Magnum 7mm Remington Magnum (7 Rem Mag) Barrel Length Versus 7mm Wsm Vs. 7mm Rem Mag Sporting Classics Daily 270 Vs 280 Remington Vs 280 Ackley Improved Vs 7mm Rem Mag Tikka Magazine T3 Long Action 5 RD 25-06 Remington 6.5x55 300 Win Mag Races 7mm Rem Again! The .270 sort of splits the difference between the .25 and .30-caliber–the .25 was questionable on game larger than deer, and the .30-caliber was effective but carried a price in recoil. By David E. Petzal. Best way I can describe it is...38 special vs 357 magnum. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Reloaders could use the same bullets for loading 270 Win and 6.8 SPC. Most are in the 200 - 500 yard range as I pass up shots too close for my interest. In 1989, they standardized Layne Simpson’s full-length belted wildcat, the 7mm Shooting Times Westerner. You will also save on powder due to the smaller case size. "To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.". Both Winchester and Remington introduced short, unbelted 7mms (7mm WSM and 7mm RSAUM). It’s taken me nearly a lifetime to accept this, but as I grow older I have to concede that Jack O’Connor was right about his pet .270. The difference between the .270’s .277-inch bullet and the 7mm’s .284-inch bullet is just .007-inch, seven thousandths. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. The 8mm did not appear to throw greatly differing bullet weights to those available for the .300’s and offered less frontal area than the .338 for creating broad wound channels. The 6.8 and 270 are the same as far as diameter and will both work for target shooting. The 270wsm is compared to 270wby, it's not, it's a step between 270 and 270wby. By Craig Boddington. Can someone please elaborate? Standard .277-inch bullets stop at 150 grains, and heavier choices are few. 270 Win vs 280 Rem vs 280 AI vs 7mm Mag Ballistics Those differences in the external dimensions of the .270 Winchester, .280 Remington, .280 Ackley Improved, and 7mm Remington Magnum do translate into differences in ballistic performance, though probably not quite as much as you’d initially expect. Some 270 bullets may be to hard and give poor terminal performance in the anemic velocities of the 6.8 and verse-visa some 6.8 bullets may be to soft for the 270 velocities giving poor terminal performance. Re: Hunting Rifle Caliber Choice: 270 vs 7mm-08 « Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 11:28:33 am » Yes exact same rifle just different calibers - I'm cutting a check to Luke tomorrow for some holsters and then going to the gunshow here Saturday looking for a local one. With the flatter trajectory and stopping power that is nearly identical to the larger .308 bullets at long range, a lot of people feel more confident in taking shots at game at a distance with the .270 over the .308. I have both and the 6.8 will NEVER be a .270  What it is, is more powerful than the 5.56/.223 in a small handy rifle that can shoot a ton of bullets really fast. His analysis was that it wouldn’t do anything his .270 couldn’t do…and I think he was right. Make sense...kind of? The Grand-dad, the 7×57 Mauser (1892), quickly achieved (and retains) some following in the United States. Its the newer "js" round that is creeping on 3,000 fps.. Same diameter. 92×57mm Mauser cartridge as the 8mm Mauser , also known as 8×57mm. As early as 1912 Charles Newton necked the .30-06 case down to take a .257-inch bullet. In truth, with the right loads, the 7×57 comes pretty close to .270 Winchester performance! This means that the bullet is the same diameter. ¿Cuál es la diferencia entre Tamron 18-270mm F/3.5-6.3 Di II VC PZD y Olympus Zuiko ED 8mm F3.5 Fisheye? The 26 Nosler vs .270 Winchester vs 7mm Updated Posted on January 7, 2015 by Ed Hale There are those that are proponents of the 6.5mm Cartridges over the .270 WInchester. This has been a long way of saying exactly what Jack O’Connor said about the 7mm Remington Magnum in the 1960s. The 7×61 Sharpe & Hart (1953) made some inroads, but it was Remington that became the great champion of the 7mm. Studied the anotomy so it was the best shot to go through the shoulder blade and get the bullet to expand before going through the heart and lung area. It took off like a rocket, for many years the world’s most popular “magnum” cartridge. I think most shooters would agree that the 6.5 Creedmoor is a fantastic cartridge for competition shooting. By 1925, the Savage 99 lever action in both .250 Savage and .300 Savage (1920) were giving Winchester a run for their money. Taken all together, this leaves the .270s as primarily hunting cartridges, and good ones at that! 270 Ackley Improved with 29 inch barrel and the 140 boat tails @ 3280 fps 1500 lbs about 45 degrees facing to me. While lots of hunters have readily adopted the 6.5 Creedmoor for hunting a wide variety of game, many other hunters remain skeptical of the suitability of the new cartridge for big game animals, particularly when its compared to the time tested .25-06 Remington and .270 Winchester cartridges. And that’s the entire spectrum of .270-caliber cartridges, with only the .270 Winchester achieving lasting popularity. Cheap 8mm Mauser Rifle Range And Best 270 Long Range Rifle PDF I can hear the 7mm fans howling for blood. Better to have and not need than need and not have. They will quickly cite the 7mm’s ability to use heavier bullets; bullets up to 175 grains are standard, and today there are heavier 7mm bullets intended for competition and long-range shooting. Has for decades and the hogs don't like it. I've been helping my dad locate a new "brush" gun for walking the property. Apple Valley, MN. Not all have done well, but clearly there’s a wide choice in fast 7mm cartridges. 270 Caliber/6.8mm (.277) Filter Results. Ammo options include loads from 100PSP and 110g TTSX to 150g Partition and Trophy Bonded Tip. Elmer Keith believed frontal area (bullet diameter) made a big difference. Craig Boddington was the senior contributing editor of our modern gun and ammunition caliber dictionary. With the .270 Win you get considerably more choices in ammo than with the 7mm-08 or .260 Rem. Winchester’s mild .25-35 was extremely popular. The Grendel doesn't come close to the .260 either. The .270 Win is, IMHO, perhaps the best deer and antelope cartridge ever developed and with the right loads it makes it a passable 500 yard elk cartridge. He is leaning towards a merkel SR1 in 8x57mm. the 270 is long action and the 6.8 is short action. Unlike the .24 and .25 calibers, these cartridges use serious big game hunting weight bullets, typically about 120 to 160 or 175 grains. The current surge of interest in the 6.5mm brings up similar arguments. Accuracy is another issue, and it cuts two ways: first in raw accuracy, and second in bullet development. Sell your 8mm mauser for FREE today on GunsAmerica!. I'm looking to by a 7mm remington mag, i have a .270 win. I don't know who told you 6.8 and .270 were about equal, maybe in terms of how flat they shoot, but not power. 8 | 9.5. Screw .270... if you're buying a rifle, go ahead and buy a .270WSM. The 7.92×57mm Mauser (designated as the 8mm Mauser or 8×57mm by the SAAMI and 8 × 57 IS by the C.I.P.) Both have been popular from their inceptions. So I hear that the 6.8 and .270 are just about equal, but looking at the performance on the Remington ammunition site, I find that not true. The .270 Winchester was a huge success, and has remained so to this day. i thought that the 6.8 was metric and the .270 was inch. October 28, 2013 There were other options; both the 6.5mm and 7mm (.264 and .284-inch) bullet diameters were popular in Europe and making inroads in the United States, but in xenophobic post-WWI America, using a “European” diameter might have been out of the question. They share the same bore and bullet diameter. It is near-ideal for the full run of deer hunting, a superb choice for mountain game, and plenty adequate for game up to elk. 7mm WSM vs my Win .270. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .300 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. I had a .270, sold it to fund my new Rem 700XCR Stainless .270WSM. They are exactly the same ...if you shoot something inside 30 feet. Again, no substituent exists for proper bullet placement. In 1915, Newton teamed with Savage to design the first cartridge to break 3000 feet per second, the .250 Savage. For that reason, the 25-06 vs 6.5 Cree… The most recent “fast 7mm” is the 28 Nosler. The 6.5s and the 260 preform close but not identical, closer than the 6.8 and the 270. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. If you hand load then the story changes as 7mm has a greater bullet selection from 100-180gr bullets vs the 270's 120-150gr. I use regular 100 gr Hornady in 6mm and 140's in the 270. The same can be said of the 7mms… but I’m hard pressed to believe they’re actually better. Bullet diameter is the only thing that's equal. I’m neither a benchrest nor a long-range competitor. Their .280 was introduced in 1957 in their Model 740 semiautomatic, initially with fairly mild loads. The two “magnum” .270s are fast and effective, about as flat-shooting as any sporting cartridges in the world. But how much difference in diameter is needed to make a noticeable difference in “hitting power”? The 8mm Mauser Takes Hunting to the Next Level. The .270 vs. .30-06 argument has been going on now for generations. I hear a lot of guys call the 6.8 a 6.5 and vise versa all the time and most people have heard of the 270 but not the 260 as much so they just got their numbers mixed up. Surprisingly, in the last 93 years, the .277-inch bullet diameter has spawned just three other cartridges, the .270 Weatherby Magnum (1945), the .270 WSM (2001), and the 6.8mm SPC (2003). Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. Same bullet different case. Keith believed that his beloved .33s hit harder than .30-calibers. It's when you get into Big Game Hunting bullets that there may be a difference. Latest information on hunting and shooting. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. There is also a long lineage of faster 7mms, including the .280 Ross (1906), the .275 H&H Magnum (1912), and the 7×64 Brenneke (1917), but none achieved popularity in the U.S. I’m prepared to concede, when bullets of like weight, construction, and velocity are used, there isn’t notable difference between .270 and 6.5mm performance. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. No evidence confirms that Winchester was even aware of this obscure cartridge. I think they were thinking the 6.5 Creedmore or even the 6.5 Grendel vs the 260 Remington. In this arena the 7mm has long since left the .270 in the dust. I agree with this, too. So do I! Just like the 9mm Luger vs. .45 Auto, M-14 vs. M-16 rifle, .300 Savage vs. .35 Remington, or perhaps even .30-30 Winchester vs. .32 Winchester Special. However, realistically, we have better bullets today, and my experience is that the most common 7mm bullets in actual use today are from 140 to 150 grains. 7mm (.284) (1) 270 Caliber/6.8mm (.277) (41) Bullet Type. I think they were thinking the 6.5 Creedmore or even the 6.5 Grendel vs the 260 Remington. Whatever their rationale, Winchester hit it right. Both are excellent cartridges. 22 Hornet 222 Rem 22-250 Rem 223 Rem 243 Win 25-06 Rem 264 Win Mag 270 Win 300 Win Mag 30-06 Sprg 303 … for hunting deer and elk, but they are few except if you create a new Cartridge like the 26 Nosler. Back when I was doing a lot of my hunting with two pet 7mm Remington Magnums I almost never used 175-grain bullets; I rated them too slow and unnecessary. Fans of the 7mm magnums tend to think of them as magic wands, citing capabilities with heavier bullets, and the almost magical aerodynamic and penetrating properties of the 7mm bullet diameter. The 6.8mm SPC was designed as a military cartridge sized for the AR15 platform, offering a more powerful option to the 5.56mm NATO cartridge. I’m also convinced that the .270 Winchester is as versatile and effective a hunting cartridge as any of the 6.5mm and 7mm cartridges except for the very fastest numbers. is a rimless bottlenecked rifle cartridge.The 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridge was adopted by the German Empire in 1903–1905, and was the German service cartridge in both World Wars.In its day, the 7.92×57mm Mauser cartridge was one of the world's most popular military cartridges. So why .277-inch? Descubre cuál es mejor y su puesto en la clasificación de objetivos para cámaras. 6.8mm rem spc ii 270 winchester 270 wby mag 27 nosler (new!) So does the short 7mm-08 Remington (1980). It wasn’t burning up the world, but in 1962 they gave 7mm fans their answer: The 7mm Remington Magnum. In the 1950s, prominent gunwriters such as Les Bowman and Warren Page clamored for a fast 7mm. On average, the .270 Win rounds have around 2 lb/f.s more momentum than the 7mm-08 rounds, but there are 7mm-08 rounds that have very similar momentum to the higher performing .270 rounds and better than the .270 rounds with less momentum. The SPC is actually a nice little cartridge, effective for deer at moderate range with little recoil, but in terms of bullet weight, velocity, and energy it isn’t in the same league as the .270 Winchester. In 2000, they topped it with the 7mm Remington Ultra Mag, still the fastest 7mm factory cartridge. 6.5mm, .270 and 7mm encompass what most of us at Guns and Shooting Online consider the ideal caliber range for hunting CXP game. Until recently this was also true of the 6.5mm, but now that the 6.5s are the long-range darlings, development of both new bullets and cartridges continues apace. The 7×57 remains one of my favorites. Assuming similar bullet construction, I’m certain a .30-caliber hits harder than a 7mm, .270, or anything smaller in caliber. 185 yards or so and below me. Caliber .270, bullet diameter .277-inch, is primarily an American phenomenon based on the .270 Winchester, which was introduced in 1925. In my mind, these offered a visible advantage over the 130-grain bullets most common in .270s. The 6.8 is a .270 short. .270 versus 7mm Rem Mag. than the .270 Win. I never bought into the idea of saving a couple of ounces, by going wsm vs longaction. 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